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Post by Ducklord on May 23, 2017 6:14:02 GMT
There is an insane amount of free coastal space open for players in Walden.
Naturally it's fairly difficult to reach, because Walden has a great deal of natural barriers, making access to these regions restricted to mostly tunnel or boat only.
That's not a bad thing.
It is however, disingenuous to talk about a lack of space, on a server with less than half of it's coastal real estate used up.
If you're going to add a new server, just be up front about it, and say, "We're doing it because it's fun to have new things." - Then do something awesome, and make the new server a replica of Westeros or Tamriel.
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Post by Ducklord on May 23, 2017 6:25:49 GMT
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Post by soulbane on May 23, 2017 8:10:15 GMT
Point taken Still think we'll need another server at some point since your average punter won't make it to most of those available locations since even on this server cluster starting out isn't easy for newbies. I guess it depends on how easy Bdew wants to make it
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Post by york on May 24, 2017 10:59:54 GMT
I thought it was too easy starting out to be fair, if there was a new server released I would personally like it to be slightly more difficult with more time effort involved. Currently on Walden it's too easy to do most things.
Farming is so fast that I had spent more time flattening the land for a farm than actually farming, which unfortunately ended up being pretty much a one-off event, my FSB is full of crops now and my wheat farm has been unharvested for over a week. I don't really feel the need to do any more unless it's purely for skill gain, speaking of which skill gain feels about right, maybe a x7 or x8 would be good though.
Animals are slightly better and do require a bit more time investment but it still feels too quick in terms of breeding, sometimes it only takes a day for them to give birth.
Money also feels too easy to get, If I wanted too I could easily grind out 1g from the traders within a day, which unfortunately has a knock on effect in terms of the economy, when anyone asks to buy anything in the trade channel I always compare the request to how much time it would take me to get the same amount from the trader, for example a knarr for 12-20 silver just can't come close to competing with traders in terms of time involved, and because it's so easy to get money I don't really feel any need to actually sell anything either. Don't get me wrong, I am actually enjoying the server but I'm worried in a few weeks or so I might end up getting bored very quickly, especially once I have finished building.
A new server with a smaller map that is separate from the current ones (to maintain an economy) but more aimed at long term players could be a nice boost to player retention.
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Post by bdew on May 24, 2017 11:25:54 GMT
I have no interest of running a separate server with different settings like multipliers and such. That's not even splitting the community, that's outright starting another community. There are plenty of servers around, going from anywhere between 1x to 1000000x for those that think 10x is too fast/slow.
The economy is intentionally different than you would normally see in WO or other WU servers. It's somewhat of a work in progress, but i want to achieve a more fluid economy with more money incoming and outgoing. Ultimately what drives the "value" of money in WO and many WU servers is the cash shop, which we will never have. It will take time for people and prices to adjust, and maybe 20s is too cheap for a knarr in this economy... you can always try selling higher.
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Post by soulbane on May 24, 2017 12:27:13 GMT
When discussing the economy or how easy or hard things are, please bare in mind that people have different playstyles and differing amounts of time available to spend in Wurm. I picked this server because the balance of enjoying the game mechanics and the grind (or difficulty level) are about right for me based on the amount of time I have free to play the game. Everyone will have different opinions, but for me the speed levels on this cluster is about perfect and set itself apart from other WU servers out there.
I'd love a 3rd server with the same rough setup as Walden
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Post by eleanorkonik on May 24, 2017 14:35:21 GMT
Given the parameters, I do think a thematic map would be a good idea. Maybe one that differentiates itself from Walden based on the forest types or landscape, or amount of lakes vs. rivers, etc.
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Post by york on May 24, 2017 17:58:52 GMT
I have no interest of running a separate server with different settings like multipliers and such. That's not even splitting the community, that's outright starting another community. There are plenty of servers around, going from anywhere between 1x to 1000000x for those that think 10x is too fast/slow. The economy is intentionally different than you would normally see in WO or other WU servers. It's somewhat of a work in progress, but i want to achieve a more fluid economy with more money incoming and outgoing. Ultimately what drives the "value" of money in WO and many WU servers is the cash shop, which we will never have. It will take time for people and prices to adjust, and maybe 20s is too cheap for a knarr in this economy... you can always try selling higher. Oops, I was reading the thread and was thinking about what elenor mentioned regarding a server that was difficult to get too, probably should have mentioned that But yeah I was thinking more in line with something the requires play on Walden and then progresses/unlock the new lands, sort of like a reward for progression on Walden itself, but as you mentioned it would be alot of work to maintain 2 rulesets. I do think the skill gain is alright, way better then x1 which is just insane in terms of grind, but I do stand by what I said regarding the economy and the speed of some things, the problem is, if it's too quick/easy then you have to maintain a high player turnover which presents it's own problems in regards to server population and as a server map gets older, new players tend to look for new maps so it's a double hit.
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Post by rheyan on May 25, 2017 8:13:06 GMT
I've not played in a while but do keep an eye on the forums each day :-) As Ducklord says, there really is a ton of free, *untouched* coastal space on the server, and this really is one of the easiest servers to get started on. You can make a Fo Priest with 60 faith in about 10 minutes (literally!) in the starting area which makes travel a lot safer. Then with the 10x speed of things, you can make a rowboat fairly easily in just a few hours from scratch, bearing in mind that all skills start at 20. It really isn't hard for even a brand new player to reach the abundance of coastal space.
So I'd say if you want to make a new server, theme it in some way. I've seen some custom maps with things like the Tamriel world, a map of the UK and other cool things. Maybe make something like that just for funsies :-)
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Post by malleece on Jun 6, 2017 11:44:51 GMT
The Mycellium thing is sort of moot now for deeds. With cleanse being added.
Bdew already has millions of things to deal with.. Adding PVP drama should not be one of them.
A theme Island might be cool
Requiring a new character is just another name for an alt. server already has plenty.
Could add another GM to assist with the work load after adding a 3rd server.
Should only require Bdew for serious issues. Other gm's should be able to assist with everything else. Leaving Bdew time to continue his awesomeness projects.
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Post by alyx on Jun 12, 2017 17:54:35 GMT
I don't think this is a good representation. You have boxes on areas that are right on top of another deed. Most people don't want someone deeding right on top of them. So to make a map and says 'look at all these spots available'.... well, wasn't great when you put squares right next to other deeds. I agree there is a lot of unclaimed area. But be more respectful of existing deeds and don't recommend the space right along their deed border.
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Post by bdew on Jun 14, 2017 7:03:20 GMT
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Post by soulbane on Jun 15, 2017 11:18:24 GMT
@bdew, are you actively discouraging existing members from creating alts to play on the new server tomorrow or are you not worried about it?
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Post by bdew on Jun 15, 2017 11:37:52 GMT
@bdew, are you actively discouraging existing members from creating alts to play on the new server tomorrow or are you not worried about it? Not at all. This is meant for existing people that are getting bored on their well geared and skilled characters just as much as it's for new members.
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Post by cydnarr on May 29, 2019 20:14:47 GMT
A year later.....I am new to the server. Teleported a couple of times to get to northeast Walden. I saw on the map there was some empty spaces that way. I got killed once. Kited the monsters away from the body, then recovered my gear. Eventually made a deed, but had to make it small because of hostile creatures. Used my one spirit templar to help clear a larger area, then resized. Been having fun the whole time, so far, but I'm basically a newbie. I'm pretty happy with my location, other than having a little trouble with my mine. Found some lead(yay!!), iron, sandstone, and salt. I probably just need to spend more time mining. Been having too much fun hunting for the bounties. I haven't visited Avalon or Otherland, yet.
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