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Post by bdew on May 16, 2017 8:26:06 GMT
As some of you might have noticed, Walden map is getting pretty packed with deeds.
There is still some open space in the outskirts, and some of the existing deeds placed by players when the server opened that quit shortly after will probably disband soon, but long term i think we need more space.
So what do you think? Do we need a new server now or should we wait? What kind of terrain would you like to see if we open another server? Should it be freedom or one of the other currently unused kingdoms?
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Post by DrWong on May 16, 2017 9:22:54 GMT
Can't say I'd know much about it seeing as im fairly new to Wurm in general and never played WO, but i think it would be really neat to have a new server. I'd love to get a fresh start in a choice piece of land in a maps beginning stages. Should prove fun  |
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Post by mistvengery on May 16, 2017 14:09:41 GMT
Yes a new server would be great! With a new kingdom JK or Black Legion just for the variance in wagons banners and flags.
Have to think on the terrain type but maybe a more advanced terrain providing more challenges and creativity for design.
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Post by eleanorkonik on May 16, 2017 14:22:32 GMT
I can't believe that 30 or so active people is the standard for "packed with deeds." Especially since Otherlands still exists and is largely empty.
I wouldn't mind a server that requires some sort of effort to get to and maybe has higher deed maintenance prices, with Sol demons etc and more environmental challenges, where events take place with a bunch of incentives like moon metal veins and stuff, but just to have pristine land?
I can't see a benefit to spreading out the playerbase more.
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Post by bdew on May 17, 2017 0:33:15 GMT
I can't believe that 30 or so active people is the standard for "packed with deeds." Thing is, the 30 players you see online aren't the same 30 players all the time. There are over 100 characters with significant play time, overall more than a thousand characters were created (granted a good chunk of those are alts and people that played just a few minutes). As for the standard of "packed with deeds"... look at the map. And the HotS server isn't really a factor, sadly most players just don't want to play there. It's been up for well over a year now, and i don't think i ever seen more than 5 people there at once unless it was for a unique hunt. |
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Post by katie on May 17, 2017 4:36:14 GMT
maybe you could add pvp server?
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Post by bdew on May 17, 2017 8:16:47 GMT
maybe you could add pvp server? Sorry but i have 0 interest in running a PVP server and dealing with all the issues/drama/explotis/metagaming wurm pvp usually brings. |
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Post by alyx on May 17, 2017 19:59:55 GMT
Even a pve with a hota gets pvp drama. Cannot stand it. There is a mod out there somewhere that allows you to build banners, wagons etc for any kingdom. I think an archipelago would be interesting. need a boat to see your nearest neighbor  As long as you do not do what Age of Urath did. They had a more difficult map with valrei critters and a ton of lairs for uniques. Being chased by 20 cyclops or forest giants is not fun. And so many dragons meant everyone had dragon scale. But a dragon hunt on that server consisted of 30-100 dragons... |
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Post by eleanorkonik on May 17, 2017 22:05:06 GMT
I have 0 interest in a pvp map. I do love the wagons mod. If there's a third server, I'd just like to see it be unique in some way, not just a copy of Walden.
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Post by Ducklord on May 18, 2017 19:41:29 GMT
There's still a great deal of space on Walden. The issue is travel - predominantly made difficult by the mountains which segregate large sections of the map, requiring boats or tunnels for accessibility.
My suggestion rather than a new server, is to adopt the Valoria or Zenath style "portal" system, which can be used to open up other areas of Walden for fast travel, giving new players more options to branch out from.
Of course, if the goal is to make a new server for funsies. (Within your right as a server owner and operator) - might I suggest doing something absolutely sweet/awesome, and making a map that's based on a famous game or book series? =)
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Post by bdew on May 21, 2017 12:54:40 GMT
I'm not a fan of portals overall, traveling and building roads is fun (to some people), and having less-reachable areas on the server isn't a bad thing either.
Regarding new server being "more challenging"... I'm not convinced that's a good idea as it would cause a divide in the community, and increased workload for me (maintaining multiple rulesets). I prefer higher difficulty stuff to be present on all servers and accessible to people regardless of where they choose to live (e.g. the rift islands).
One idea i'm currently kicking around in my head is making the new server temporary (for say, the first two weeks) unconnected to the rest and allow only new characters that would start with no items at all and have to survive and work up to the normal tools and stuff. Maybe have some prizes for various achievements during that period. It could be a fun event for a while then when it's over connect the server to the old ones and make it behave the same.
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Post by Pukwudgie on May 21, 2017 19:51:00 GMT
I wouldnt do permanent new server. The issue is that players claim huge deeds and then live alone, never needing half the space they claimed. Makeing third server just makes less change to actually meet another player in face. New player should be encouraged to join an existing deed rather than make new.
However, an event server would be nice, 2 week challenge as you mentioned, or some storyline quest type of server, where actual building is limited to few towns and players would have to adventure, find hidden clues and stuff. Could even do it as weekend event, as server would be up for weekend and during week, GM-s would have time to prepare for next weekend event etc.
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Post by mistvengery on May 22, 2017 2:42:59 GMT
I like the thought of a regular event type server..open for events, scavenger hunts, skill challenges. my fav lock picking contest ( cause I had to say that one) building events, the maze would take some creativity and possibly more work to do but if we all worked together came up with an event and had volunteers help to get it ready think it would be nice once every other month maybe to lessen the workload. Just some thoughts |
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Post by soulbane on May 22, 2017 23:11:58 GMT
maybe you could add pvp server? Sorry but i have 0 interest in running a PVP server and dealing with all the issues/drama/explotis/metagaming wurm pvp usually brings. I've been there, done that, and got the tshirt. Please do not even go there. Lets face it, Wurm PVP sucks big time, if you want pvp, Wurm isn't the game for you, even more so on WU versus WO. |
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Post by soulbane on May 22, 2017 23:18:52 GMT
I am personally in favour of an additional regular server. If there is one thing that deters new players, it's the lack of available coastal deed space. Otherland (where I reside) isn't popular because the whole Libila Mycelium thing puts people off. It's all very well saying there is space on Walden, but new players don't want to deed on hills or away from water for a whole bunch of reasons. I firmly believe the player numbers will rise if we do this.
Just my two cents!
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